I’ve got a bit of a reputation as a skilled networker. Just look at my favourites. I’ve had the pleasure of meeting and working with many A-Listers and have had many people beg for my secrets.
The truth? There aren’t any. There are strategies. There is hard work and the willingness to accept failure.
Rather than provide yet another tutorial, this post talks about how I managed to go from a blogging nobody to where I am.
Now, I’ve released a cool networking course called ‘How To Network Fast‘. It is way more comprehensive than this post and contains the Twitter and guest post strategies that got me out of poverty. If that sounds like the thing kind of thing you’d dig, click here to check it out.
The beginning
I started out experimenting like everybody else. I did the 30 Day challenge. I signed up for the RSS feeds of all the top blogs. I reviewed a lot of products on my comic book blog. I learned so much but the income was just trickling in.
It was around the end of 2008 that my anxiety disorder got worse. I was unable to work so just hung out on Twitter. I primarily hung out in the Australian blogging community and I made some really good friends. One of my earliest friends and supporters was Darren Rowse. I was always a fan, but wanted to connect with him after the birth of his second son. I had become an aunt for the first time and emotionally connected to the story. I started talking to him on Twitter and occasionally had a Google Talk conversation with him. I also enjoyed talking to WordPress geek Jeff Chandler.
Then I did my first Problogger review
Reviewing Dave Navarro’s How to Launch the **** Out of Your Ebook was a turning point. I wrote about how this happened on Remarkablogger. What I didn’t know was that this one review would lead to so many other opportunities.
I followed up with a review of the The Unlimited Freelancer. I got some negative feedback which scared me off doing a review for a while. However, this one opportunity led to so many more.
The following people are just some of the people I connected with via this review.
Charlie Gilkey.
Dave is friends with Charlie Gilkey. Charlie reached out to Dave about how to get a guest post on Problogger and Dave recommended he get in touch with me.
I sent Charlie a comprehensive email which included a link to his guest bloggers page and details that would help make a personal connection. We had a brief Google chat and have kept in touch since. Iplan to hire Charlie to help with my business.
Naomi Dunford
If you’re going to review a product on a leading blog, do one that is a joint venture. You have two audiences and two different people to network with.
Now, because I’m that awesome, I barely knew who Dave and Naomi where before buying this product. I knew Naomi was a star but she intimidated me.
Naomi tweeted about the review and asked me to do a guest post. I still haven’t done that – I needed to build up the courage.
We haven’t become close working buddies but we’ve been cool. I’ve got review copies of some products and she knows who I am. I know we’ll eventually work together on some project. I’ll hire her for consulting as soon as I have a home phone. I really need a home phone.
Johnny B Truant.
When I initially connected to Naomi, I asked her for advice. Her main recommendation was to play the Problogger review card. This was something I was uncomfortable with but then Johnny release his Zero to One business course. I really wanted it and there was no way I could afford it – not on $200 AU a week. So, I gave it a try.
Darren had given me permission to do this so I asked. I worked with Johnny to create a post based around his success. The response was mixed. Skellie emailed me saying she loved it. Some people got snarky, but it opened the doors for Johnny to post on there more often. I’m going to interviewing him for my podcast this Friday and will be interviewed for the Jam sessions project he has with Charlie Gilkey.
Lessons:
Be willing to leverage previous successes
I was too scared to do this because it felt like bragging. I lost a lot of opportunities to connect and work with new people.
You don’t have to be annoying and spammy to point out why you rock. You just have to point to examples of your work and any relevant social proof. I now try to collect LinkedIn references from my clients so they can speak on my behalf.
Iwas comfortable with losing those opportunities because I was uncomfortable promoting myself and that’s fine. I wasn’t ready to push certain boundaries and doing so may have led to resentment. However, it’s worth knowing when to leave your comfort zone.
Don’t take criticism to heart
I didn’t review products for a long time after my Unlimited Freelancer review was criticized by the Copyblogger readership. I’ve never been able to distance myself emotionally from my work and that has led to me turning down opportunities because I was scared of the criticism the extra exposure will bring.
Distancing myself from my work is a challenge and it takes a lot of practice to get used to criticism. I now see negative comments as a challenge. I try to see a situation from their perspective and trying to talk back to them as a fellow person. Most people respond to this. Those that don’t aren’t willing to see any other opinion than their own.
Going to tweet ups
After I’d been on my meds a couple of months, I decided I really wanted to meet Darren. We’d been talking for about 6 months and had developed a good rapport. I arranged to catch up with him at a Melbourne Bloggers meetup.
It was awkward. I hadn’t socialized in over a year and just leaving the house was embarrassingly difficult. It was fun to have a chat but I was nothing compared to how I am online.
Days after that, I discovered that there was a new tweetup called Tweetupmellers and sent Darren a DM seeing if he would go. I nearly couldn’t make it due to a random foot injury but did so. It was a rough first tweetup.
I didn’t know anyone so had to embarrassingly introduce myself to everyone with a Seth Godin doll. It certainly broke the ice but I felt embarrassed at future tweetups. It was at this time that I met my future mate and business partner, Bill Journee. I thought he was a goober and still have no idea how we became friends.
I later introduced Sarah Prout to Darren and was able to review her Twitter book on Twitip. I also met Si Dawson, creator of the Twit Cleaner. I reviewed that on Twitip as well.
Tweetupmellers was such a fabulous business opportunity, but also helped with my personal life. I’ve met many people that have become good friends that I’ve since caught up with in Melbourne.
Lesson:
Tweetups are a great place to network
I’m an influencer but I only recommend products from the people I trust. Meeting someone in person is one of the best ways to build trust. I trusted Sarah Prout and Si Dawson because they were friendly, talked to me as an equal and helped me out when I was feeling ill.
Business wise, I don’t get that much out of tweetups. I see it them as a place to meet cool people. I rarely try to help the person that just shoves a business card in my face. I’m looking for people that are smart and take care of their community. One of the best ways to observe how they treat people, including yourself, is at a tweetup.
The 892 bloggers post
I created the first post, about Darren Rowse, before I launched the prolific writer. This had got a bit of attention via Twitter and Stumbleupon so I created a similar one about Shai Coggins. I had always planning to create a huge post called 1000 tips you can learn from 40 bloggers but had been unable to blog for some time. In June, I decided to re-launch my blog with this main concept in mind.
Networking while creating the list
My intention with this post was to create a list of top bloggers and what you could learn from them. I planned to interview each person and review all of their content. It was an epic undertaking and one that was quite stressful.
I published each post as they were completed. This led to a lot of people commenting on the posts and contacting me personally. Many asked for me to tell them when it was up so that they could retweet it. I was able to get some review copies and generally, build some interested.
I ended up launching it in September to coincide with the social media masterclass with David Meerman Scott.
Meeting DM Scott
Meeting David was one of the highlights of last year. He is such a compelling presenter and his book, World Wide Rave, was the best social media book I had read.
I had the pleasure of attending drinks with him, and other prominent social media identities, the night before the conference. Normally, I would have felt out of place at a meetup. I met two fabulous Brisbane women – Anne Sorensen and Jillian Kingsford Smith. I was able to help them both out after the conference. I was glad to, because they were so fascinating.
The list post was a good reason for David to talk to me. He thanked me, and asked about the work that went into it. I talked about his books and was able to get my copies signed by him. We made arrangements for me to interview him the next day via flipcam.
Lessons:
It is worth getting the persons attention prior to their event.
So many awesome people attended the Masterclass. There was a lot of demand for David’s attention and, under normal circumstances, it would have been difficult to reach out to him.
Because I had made the prior connection via the post and the drinks he sought out me to do the video interview and even gave me advice on what I could do. All it took was including him in a crazy launch post.
You can network while creating a blog post
I do a lot of blog posts that feature others and will continue to do so. These resonate with the audience and help me get to know awesome people.
I try to work with someone to create a really awesome post. That means interviewing them, creating relevant promotions and sending them post drafts to see if there is anyway they’d improve it. It means I get to know the blogger better and learn more about their working style.
Getting my job thanks to Twitter.
My work quickly got the attention of Sam Mutimer – the founder of Tweetupmellers and social media strategist of ThinkTank Media. I had offered her help via DM which led to her hiring me for a number of campaigns.
I was able to build my profile thanks to my work there. My blog posts got considerable attention. I became friends with Ali from Caroline Serviced Apartments. Sam also raved to some of her friends about the work I did.
Meeting Iggy Pintado.
One of those friends was Connection Generation author, Iggy Pintado. I did a blog post for Twitip about how I got my job thanks to Twitter which attracted his attention. He seemed interested in my work so I went to a mini tweetup to meet him.
Iggy later told me that my discomfort was very visible during this tweetup, but I was so grateful for the chance to go. It was smaller and less formal than regular tweetups. I was able to meet other local business identities like David Warwick and Luke Grange.
I was able to talk to Iggy about his book and interview him for my blog. This wouldn’t have happened without Sam’s help.
Quitting work
I ended up quitting Think Tank Media late last year due to severe family problems. I took some time off before starting a guest post campaign over the summer.
Lesson:
You can quit your job and still be friends with your ex boss
I felt horrible when I quit ThinkTank Media. I loved the work but I couldn’t handle the family stress and continue to rock the campaigns. I spent some time agonizing over the decision to quit and the hardest part was telling Sam.
It hurts watching the business kick arse and not being part of it, but I am very thankful for my friendship. I’ve gone into the offices to hang out and do work. I meet Sam at tweetups and chat to her on facebook. I even embarrass her at conferences by getting Gary Vaynerchuk to say Hi. This was an awesome lesson that I was really glad to learn.
Writing the Bloggers to Watch list.
I pitched the 30 Bloggers to Watch concept on a whim. I thought it would be a good idea so sent Darren a DM asking if he would be. He was.
I wrote it in 2009 but Darren waited some time until he posted it. It was a bit unpolished, so I was surprised when the post went up. I was also surprised at just how popular the post got.
It received the most comments out of any of my guest posts. Twitter went nuts. It was rather stressful dealing with the comments and fixing some of the issues in the post.
It was a fascinating networking opportunity. All of the people featured on the list were stoked and touched base with me. It was an opportunity for many of my friends, such as Robb Sutton and Ali Hale, to reconnect. Many people reported extra sales, and Twitter followers. Most have used their list status as social proof on their website or sales copy.
Here’s something that many people don’t talk about with these kind of lists: A lot of people got hurt feelings. It’s harder when you are friends with them and have to justify your decision because I was too tired to do more than 30 and wanted a balance of metabloggers.
It also led to so many new people connecting with me. I was able to chat to many of the rising stars and help them kick arse. I also had many established bloggers reach out to me – people like David Risely and Yaro Starak. That was an honour.
Lessons:
I did a summary of the many lessons learned in 3 Essential Lessons and 3 Benefits About Viral Blog Posts. They are still relevant and there was a number of interesting comments.
Launching my small business.
Creating Social Media Solutions was one of the craziest, funnest, stressful and awesome things I’ve done. I’ve written about it on this blog several times. The business itself didn’t lead to an direct networking experiences. It was more of a chronological backdrop to meeting two people that I’m now an even bigger fan of.
Meeting Skellie
It was around this time that I met Skellie. This was a fabulous meeting. I’ve been blog crushing on her from the start. She is the person that made me go ‘Yep. This is what I want to do.’
I’d commented on her blog and tweeted with her but we didn’t make a solid connection until April, 2009. I was in Adelaide for the Easter weekend and was relaxing in the bathroom at the hotel because that was the only place with a free power point.
She put a call out asking for advice for email lists. I replied, offering to collate some of the emails from my swipe file and forwarded them to her. She then asked for my advice on what I wanted from such a product and we corresponded a bit over that first month. 9 months later she was nearing release and contacted me to look over the draft copy.
I did. It was so amazing that I contacted Darren, seeing if he wanted me to review ihttp://jadecraven.com/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&post=1325&message=10t for Problogger. I did, and that review will be up shortly.
We met up soon after the launch. It was amazing to meet someone I truly idolized and share stories about guest posting and blogging. She is such a fantastic person and I’m so thankful I got the chance to be part of her launch.
Meeting Fi Bendall
Fi Bendall is the founder of Bendalls Group – a digital agency that works with clients like ANZ and Coles. ANZ created an initiative called Febusave and she put the call out for woman bloggers to participate. She asked Iggy Pintado for help and he recommended me and Kirsty Wilson.
Iggy contacted me initially and recommended that I participate because it could open doors for me – and also offered for me to stay with him and the lovely Kerry when in Sydney. I agreed and Fi called me the next day.
I helped with Febusave, but due to my business course was unable to blog about my journey. Instead, I did a guest post for Iggy’s blog about why I thought it was a fabulous initiative. I have the domain and site ready to participate next year.
Because of his, Fi was willing to meet with me when she came to Melbourne. I ended up travelling for five hours just to have a coffee with her near her hotel.
It was a great opportunity. She is such a savvy and fascinating woman. I really liked talking to her and caught up with her again when I went to Sydney. She has agreed to be interviewed for the Twitter book and I’m sure I’ll eventually be able to work with her – once I’ve reached her level of awesomeness.
Lessons:
People have the same desire to help regardless of how successful they are
I was so surprised at how awesome both Fi and Skellie were. They both offered to help me, which was amazing. They are both intelligent and busy people and I was honored they were willing to help me with my new business.
I didn’t take up the offers. I see both Fi and Skellie as mentors and would rather focus on observing them and learning as much as possible by me helping them. But the fact that they offered, well, that makes them SO much cooler to me.
Having a business makes a great networking point
When I was ‘just a blogger’, I struggled with conversation with a lot of business types. I didn’t feel I was qualified to talk to them about issues. Now that I have my own business, I find it a lot easier to talk about it. I don’t know whether this is a confidence thing, or just that my knowledge has grown, but it has allowed me to have very serious discussions with prominent businesspeople about ways I can specifically help them. It’s been awesome and I suspect it will lead to a whole new level of connecting people.
Going to Connect Now
This is something that I never expected I’d be able to do. I went to an interstate conference and met such amazing people.
I hugged Darren Rowse. (I’ve been mates with him for a while but had never hugged.) I got a pic with Gary Vaynerchuk. I got my copy of Engage signed by Brian Solis. I got to chat with many of the other presenters in the breaks. It was awesome.
The best action happened with those that weren’t ‘famous’. I was able to meet people that I’d spoken to for over a year and really wanted to meet.
I was able to save money that week by staying with Iggy Pintado and his lovely wife Kerry. Staying with them was such a lovely experience and really helped with the accidental networking. Iggy loves connecting so was constantly connecting me with people. He was able to introduce me to a lot of Sydney people I hadn’t had the chance of talking to on Twitter. We went to champagne Fridays and East Side Coffee Mornings and he was able to introduce me to people I wouldn’t have otherwise met. Some of these led to really cool friendships – such as with Nancy Georges and Kristin Rohan.
Connect now was a financial risk. I haven’t gotten any direct business from it. From a networking perspective, it was bloody amazing. Its led to new friendships and possible work opportunities. I’m planning to go to Blog World Expo in October.
Lessons:
Prepare for the conference well in advance.
I wrote about my conference networking techniques previously, but I was nowhere near prepared for Connect Now. I had researched the presenters but hadn’t researched enough of the attendees. I feel a lot calmer around people when I’m familiar with their work. I was able to easily chat to, and hug, those I had already spoken to online. With others, it was rather awkward.
I know what to do for next time and will be following up in a future post.
Stay close to the action.
I stayed with friends about 30 minutes out of Sydney. I loved staying with them because it was comfortable and felt like home. I know that I lost some networking opportunities because I was so far away from the venue.
If I had stayed closer, I would have been able to go out to some of the post event networking drinks. I wouldn’t have lost so much time getting there and back and would have been able to hang around to chat after the speakers had finished.
I wasn’t worried about this at Connect Now, because it was draining and I didn’t have the energy to network. However, I’ll definitely be taking advantage of this at future events.
Other stories:
Not all meetings can form part of a narrative. Even though I’ve actively leveraged my previous work, a lot of my networking has been accidentally.
- Even though I reviewed The Unlimited Freelancer on Problogger the year before, I only started talking to James Chartrand in April, 2010. We bonded over our hatred of planes.
- I started talking to Marko Saric after I bought a copy of his ebook. I later worked with him to get a review on Twitip.
- I met Adam Baker on his trip to Australia. I also met Shai Coggins when I visited Adelaide with my dad.
- I met Yaro Starak when he came to Melbourne for a conference. It was hard not to freak out because his hair was short.







Fabulous post! One of the things I think that is hurt my online presence is the lack of networking with other bloggers. The something I'm trying to do this difficult when you work full-time and you do your blogging for an hour each day. Any recommendations?
Fabulous post! One of the things I think that is hurt my online presence is the lack of networking with other bloggers. The something I'm trying to do this difficult when you work full-time and you do your blogging for an hour each day. Any recommendations?
Blimey, you really know how to write a great post to inspire others who think they are the only ones having a crap time getting their blog established. And some people think you are an overnight success – where's that ROFLMAO emoticon!
Wow, what an information-packed, helpful post! So would you say your main strategy has been to review other people's products on guest posts? Do you think it's also effective to review products on one's own blog? Did you approach A-list bloggers out of the blue to offer guest posts? Networking with the “a listers” seems like brown nosing, that's why it kind of feels icky to me. I'm not very outgoing in real life, so it feels weird to act like that online.
Thank you for writing a story for our times. You've catalogued it brilliantly and cohesively. It is a great case study for people who are reticent about networking and who really need to understand the power of presence. You continue to create valuable contextual content, Jade. Thanks again for sharing.
Cheers, Iggy
Jade,
I have been dying to read this post (you have been hinting about in on twitter for a while). Awesome post! I have a tip for other newbies like me: take a look at how Jade personally interacts with people on twitter. Jade is an excellent model of how to do it well and I am always jealous that she thinks of cool stuff to write before i do.
Hi Jade. Not sure if it's a typo, but how was your Unlimited Freelancer review criticized by the Copyblogger readership when it appeared on Problogger? Just want to clear this up if it was indeed a simple substitution mistake between “pro” and “copy” (it happens all the time).
Hi Brian. It wasn't a typo but I should have been more clear.
You tweeted a link to the review and many followers picked up on my grammatical errors. At the time, it was rather hurtful as I couldn't afford an editor.
It did make me a better writer. I now read your blog daily, buy the products, and my business is better for it. My biz partner edits my work and people take me seriously.
I hope that clears up the confusion – I do apologise, as I know you're really busy. I am now so thankful for that experience as it forced me to take web writing seriously.
Hi Jade,
This post should be read by many small businesses as gives much hope and advice to those who are a little nervous in this area.
Your thinking outside the square is a great example for others to learn from.
By my count you dropped 36 names in that post. Is that some kind of record?
Okay, thanks for letting me know. Some of our audience can indeed be tough about grammar. But of course many of the people you list in this post are Copyblogger writers, so we can't be all bad.
WOW!! What a story! Congratulations Jade. As is evident from your post – you have achieved a lot in such a short time. Perhaps the most satisfying thing though has been the people you've met and the relationships formed along the way. You know how grateful I am for the intro to JBT! He continues to dazzle all my clients – and that connection was thanks to you! (Thank you again!) Take care – and looking forward to the next instalment of the 'JC Story ..A Blogging Adventure?' (working title perhaps)
x
PS Love the artwork on yr ebooks & Social Media Solutions logo! Just great.
Oh shush :-p there's actually more cool people I know but I tried to keep it to the ones that people ask me about. It's like with Anne – who commented and who I met at the dm Scott thing. She's awesome and it's really cool connecting my traditional business friends with my social media ones.
Is there anything you'd like me to expand on for my guest post for you?
My biz partner bill did all the awesome designing stuff – and I wouldn't be a good friend if I didn't mention he freelances :-p
connecting you to Johnny was amazing for learning. I didn't know that the business and social media worlds could work so well together. He's released a course on questioning the rules that may interest you. Planning to review it when, well, not on a train.
You are right about the best thing being the people I've met. My anxiety means that I isolate myself socially so many of these people have become good friends. I'm immensly loyal to Dave, Darren, ali and many others coz they've been cheering me on through the rough stuff. Now is the time to pay people back
I reacted badly at the time because i wasn't receiving treatment for an anxiety disorder. I'm now a huge fan. Someone accused me of copyblogger favoritism in the 30 bloggers to watch post and my response was that so many writers there were on the list because they are that awesome.
One of my goals is to eventually guest post on copyblogger and be like Dave and Johnny. It would be challenging but would be a fantastic learning opportunity.
I'm very thankful to you.
Fantastic post Jade! And a great reminder that it's about seeing everyone you meet as being on the same team. How can we all help each other to help each other
One of the best people to talk to about that is Dave Navarro , in particular this post: http://www.thelaunchcoach.com/workbooktwo . He recently quit his job and did many product launches, networking and blogging in his free time.
Also, coz I suffer from anxiety, I don't have that many productive hours to work sometime. I see networking as a long term thing. You chat to someone long enough and they'll want to help you out. Its also about leverage and luck.
Its like.. I was lucky in that a lot of my early friends had a rep and I didn't have to work as hard because other people did the connecting on my behalf. I can expand on it in future or guest posts though
It appears that I'm an overnight success because I show up, kick arse, then drop off the radar for a while. This time, I've worked through my problems rather than solely focus on them.
The ironic thing is – I've had a decent profile for a while. It just took a while for everything to fall into place and be able to do something with it. Its worth it though – now I just get to hang with cool people and everyones like 'no, how can I help you?” Let me know if I can help, dude, and thanks for the nice tweet.
Thanks dude. I sorta hope someone else with anxiety may read it and go 'you know, maybe I can still kick arse online even though I struggle socially.
Lemme know if you want me to expand on the social vs presence concept. I've been thinking about it a lot lately.
Hi Kathleen!
I'm not very social in real life. In fact, I'm getting treated for social phobia and anxiety. Its hard, very hard, and it does feel like brown nosing.
I don't actively seek out a-listers – I just talk to the people that seem cool. I like Yaro 'coz he's a geek, and Darren shares similar interests. I wanted to get to know them on that level, just like I wanted to meet Iggy and Ainslie (who commented in this post) because I'd connected with them on a personal level online.
So. Originally my main strategy was to review other peoples products on guest posts. That was the best way, as a newbie, to make an impression and really help people out. When my profile grew, I was able connect people to opportunities without necessarily doing this.
Once I started helping people, they wanted to return the favor. Either they approached me or, after I'd built up a friendship, I asked them. Because we had an online working relationship, people were willing to help me out.
Reviewing a product on your own blog can be effective and a way to get attention. It may not lead to money though. Its definitely worth getting the practice.
I hate brown nosing. I just can't do it. Sometimes it may seem like that but I sorta believe in telling people when they do something awesome, because people deserve to know when they've helped you.
Let me know if I can answer any further questions.
I see twitter as my place to just hang out. I'm open about having anxiety and sometimes my work makes me socially isolated. I genuinely like going on there, just communicating, and helping when I can.
Totally. It was like going to Connect Now. Many people there – Siobhan, some of the presenters, business people – saw me on the same level as them. And that freaked me out. I'm even going to be working with some of them – some for free, some possible joint ventures. Even after writing this post, networking via this method still baffles me.
Thanks!
I find many small businesses think different to me. They are scared of networking online and that's a natural response. I'm loving learning how to find ways to help them.
Really lovely to meet you, Susan
Hi Jade, thank you for your reply! I really appreciate your thoughtful comments. I think your stuff really resonates with me because of the fact that you have anxiety issues. I'm like, “No way, she does NOT have anxiety if she can do that!” haha
I agree. It's good to thank ppl. know when they do something or create something awesome that helps you. It's definitely not brown nosing when you approach it from that perspective. I feel so mushy when I do it, but it's an all-around good thing to do. I've been trying to do it more often. Slowly but surely, I think I'll open up more online. It makes me feel vulnerable and weird, but I know that getting out of my shell and networking a bit is essential! Even with the little I've done, I've met some really great people.
Thanks again, Jade. I appreciate your reply very much. And congratulations on how far you've come and all you've accomplished!
Thats one of the reasons I try to be open about anxiety because people sometimes make excuses. I used to be one of them. I try to show there are ways of working through the fears and insecurities without being sleazy. I dunno – it's weird.
Oh gosh, I feel mushy when I say nice things. Its.. weird. However, I know how I've felt when people I love and admire tell me that they are proud of me. I know how much little encouraging comments have meant. I've pushed through the uncomfortable feeling because its a way of giving back without doing much.
It took me some time to get out of my shell. And I do so much stuff that people don't see.
Thank you so much for your lovely comments.
Seriously – this post was hard to write and it always helps to know its appreciated.
I do love it when a plan comes together. Have a great weekend.
I really enjoyed your post. I am working on connecting with influencers in my local community (El Paso) and your advice will definitely help. Taking that first step is hard but after that the journey begins. Great post!
Super-interesting ride, Jade
I just found out about you via Viperchill.
YOu have achieved a lot, and I need to kick myself in the ass to reach the same level
Wow wow now that's what I call a blog post. Just an incredible amount of insightful info in this one Jade! I been yawning at some same-as-usual IM guru video pitches this week that don't have a fraction of the value this post does by itself. Great work dude, and inspiring!
Thank you, Mars!
Honestly, it doesn't feel like a lot. Whenever I'm on a consulting call it feels like I'm falling apart.
You don't have to kick yourself in the arse – you just have to push through the rough times when you feel like giving up.
I love Viperchill btw. Fascinating blog and he really, really helped with the consult I did. Let me know if I can ever help you with anything!
Thank you so, so much. It means a lot. I struggled writing this post and I was worried that it wouldn't have value to the people I really admire and respect like you.
Totally. I've read sooo many sales letter / pitches I almost find the very techniques I know the marketer is using to try and get me to buy does the absolute reverse. Pet pieves:
1. Marketers mentioning “the gurus” whilst trying to make out they're not positioning themselves as one.
2. Free stuff that is like “yeah ok I get the point but I'm not really going to get anything without buying the product am I?”
I like your sales style, Dave Navarro, Laura Roeder's newer stuff (she wasn't quite 3rd tribe early last year
– it's like “look, we're selling something, hopefully you've seen enough from us to know we provide value, here's great offer we think can help you. Please buy if it's right for you”
Being in the software business, I like to think I have a slightly easier job with this – the product either works and get results, or it doesn't. period. That said, the more I learn the more I realise people still need to even trust they'll get results from software in the same way they need trust from information products. I saw a great freebie approach for this – a guy gave away a free report detailing 3 great techniques for increasing product sales, no hidden-away info. Then the sales pitch was as simple as “You can do those techniques yourself right now, or buy my software which does them for you in a fraction of the time”
Anyway, I'm rambling…
You're an inspiration to me Jade, I can't see that you're doing anything wrong with this one!
DAMN, girl. Now THIS breaks all myths around the necessity of brevity in blog posts. This post detailed EVERYTHING and was never vague; I a lot of value from this. I'll have to refer back to the post as I continue networking online a lot more.
Thanks so much!
Thank you a lot!
I'm not good at brevity. I tried, it didn't work, so I resorted back to my normal style. Anyway, I'm glad you got a lot out of it. Seriously. It was meant to show that networking goes in stages and you leverage previous activities. And that its hard sometimes.
I don't see it as networking though – I see it as making friends.
I'm that lame
Thank you so much!
Honestly, I'm not good at sales. It goes against my personality. I intentionally did it the way you described because thats what felt right in my gut, even if it meant losing money. It makes me feel better and I'm primarily in this to make me happy.
With the software analogy, there is still a lot of trust. I make a lot of software decisions based on trust. Either I rely on a recommendation of a good friend/business contact – like you with that twitip post – or I trust the person offering tech/customer support.
And yeah. If you provide a freebie – without holding back any of the big details – you can get a lot of traction. This is especially true with Chris Guillebeaus stuff and some of the posts Dave Navarro did surrounding the launch of his More Buyers Mastermind program. Oooh! Another really good site is goddessguidebook.com. The content might not interest you but the way she involves her community is fantastic and inspirational.
Gotta run – babysitting day – but I love how much you contribute here
Its really impressive.
- Jade
Truer words have never been spoken.
I really enjoyed reading the different stages you went through. That is just too cool that you laid it all out.
And I think that's the approach people SHOULD take! Make friends, be kind, and karma will come 'round to you.